"When the Levee Breaks" theories

[feliciakw]

After a night of sleep, the shock seems to have worn off. I've downloaded the ep, but I'm still not planning on doing a magnum opus. I will, however, offer up some theories here, just in case they pan out next week. And a couple comments.



1. Castiel is going to give Dean the angelic equivalent of Sam's demon mojo.

2. Ruby's plan won't work. Even if she's telling the truth, which I don't believe she is--a lie of omission is still a lie--if Sam kills Dean, it goes against the prophecy of Dean having to be the one to stop the Apocalypse. Rather, it will only make matters worse, stepping Sam into Lilith's place (he was supposed to be the leader of YED's army, remember?), thereby either making Sam be the one to break the seal or giving Sam total demonic power, perhaps even turning him into a demon. In which case, Dean will have to kill him.

3. "If I do this, Sam won't have to?" Oh, Dean. That's been your approach to monster killing since we've known you. This is no different. *hugs Dean*

4. Sam's hallucinations are a very interesting statement on what he thinks of himself. He apparently already sees himself as a monster. He sees Dean as weak, or at least too weak to stop him. Or maybe that's the demon blood talking. *wants to hug Sam, but he's scary*

5. Now why would someone higher up tell Cas to let Sam out of the panic room? Is it to remove the one last obstacle preventing Dean from stopping the Apocalypse (said obstacle being to kill Sam)? Is it a test of his loyalty (something along the lines of Abraham and Isaac)? Or are we gonna go for the messianic storyline of Dean dying to redeem Sam and save the world? ('Cause we've kind of already done that, the Dean dies in Sam's place type of thing.)

6. I was delighted that Cas still feels he should at least acknowledge Dean's feelings by telling Dean he can't tell Dean whatever it was he was going to tell him last week.

7. Sam and Ruby are in bed, and they still have clothes on. In a Sera Gamble ep. Are we sure that's not the last seal?

8. I don't know how the writers are going to fix this. Right now, I don't see how they can fix it and stay true to the show. I hope they can, and I hope they do. I just . . .

Comments

[ficwriter1966.livejournal.com]

You know what I'm afraid of?

We saw Cas letting Sam out of the panic room - and Dean believes Ruby did it. Cas does nothing to help or make him think otherwise.

I'm afraid Cas is going to kill Bobby. I think he's been ordered by his superiors to do so - to eliminate Dean's last earthly ally, his last source of comfort and advice. Leave Dean entirely alone, let him think Bobby's death is the fault of Ruby (and/or Sam), and he's gonna go gunning to TAKE THIS THING DOWN. He's got nothing (no one) left to save. He'll be the perfect soldier. It'll be Dean and the angels against Sam and the demons.

And won't *that* leave us with a fun summer.

In other news - Jared acted the crap out of that. As did Jensen, but that's kind of a given.

*goes off to sigh*

[feliciakw.livejournal.com]

I . . . can't even contemplate that right now. I see what you're saying, and I'm sorry to say I can see it going there. I've been saying for weeks that Dean is losing all of his allies in this battle. I just really, REALLY don't want them to make Cas beyond my liking.

Show is treading on dangerously thin ice right now. I've cut them slack this season on the stuff that twigs me the most, but if they go there--if they destroy the Boys and their relationship and the one stand-in for supernatural Good that they've given us . . .

You will know that I've left by my silence.

In other news, Jared and Jensen are way too awesome for CW.

[ficwriter1966.livejournal.com]

I've been pondering this some more. The references to John, and Cas's obvious unhappiness with the orders he's been given? I wonder if this might veer off to Cas telling *his* Father (or at least his superiors) to Eat Dirt And Die. He's been questioning things all along - has had Anna tell him that's right, that's good, he should do that.

I can envision some closing scenes where somebody (Zachariah? 'Cause God is hard to cast, and all this War stuff might not be coming from God anyway) tells Cas to do something hideous (kill Sam?) and Cas says, Ya know what? Screw you. And allies himself with Dean.

Kripke wrote *and* directed 4.22. I think a lot of do-do is gonna hit the fan. And then we can reel all summer while he cackles.

[feliciakw.livejournal.com]

Kripke wrote *and* directed 4.22.

This scares me as much as anything you could have said. I do not trust Kripke without the intervention of the rest of the team. And the (imo) strongest member of the team passed away last January.

*completes foundation for pillow fort. Continues on with the uprights.*

[kimmer1227.livejournal.com]

Cas killing Bobby! I hadn't thought of that, but you're right. It would set Dean off in Rambo mode. I don't know if Show would go there with Cas. I'm expecting him to go the other way, telling Dean what he wanted to tell him in the first place.

Run, Bobby, run!!!

[kimmer1227.livejournal.com]

It can be fixed. I have no idea how, but it can.

I think the boys are being played by both sides. I think Ruby was talking about herself - she's Lucifer's First, and Sam is the human she is now turning into a demon. Sam killing Lilith will complete his demonhood and break the seal and set Old Lucy free.

Why biggest question is what does heaven get out of letting Sam out? They either want this battle to be over and done with, or they still see Sam as a wild card in stopping the battle. If Dean fails, they still have Sam as backup, or vise versa.

I'm hoping Cas is gonna falter next week and help Dean at the last minute. He obviously knows the truth behind Heaven's plans.

Will Dean ever stop selling his soul for his brother. Oh, Dean.

I just hope the cliffie isn't with the boys still apart. I want them to figure "it" out, even if it's too late, and get stuck with fixing their mess next season, together.

[ficwriter1966.livejournal.com]

Heaven wants this war. They TOTALLY want it. I'm thinking, that doesn't come from God - it comes from Heaven's equivalent of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Zachariah might be their Dick Cheney. They want the war, so they can show once and for all that Heaven Rulz. And if there's a lot of shitty fallout from that? *shrugs*

Cas is totally gonna go rogue and side with Dean. That little look of woe last night? Heh.

The cliffie's totally gonna end with Sam on one side and Dean on the other. It's like last year, when Kripke said, "We've been talking all along about Dean going to Hell. We can't *not* do it." They've been talking all along about the brothers being divided. They can't *not* do it. They CAN'T. From a storytelling perspective, *not* doing it would be ridiculous. It's gonna end up with Dean and Cas against Sam and Ruby.

If I'm wrong, I'll buy you pie in DC.

[kimmer1227.livejournal.com]

They can't *not* do it. They CAN'T. From a storytelling perspective, *not* doing it would be ridiculous. It's gonna end up with Dean and Cas against Sam and Ruby.

Oh, I totally think it's gonna happen. But it can happen early enough in the ep that by the end the boys know they fucked up, each in their own way, and have a joint mission to fix their mess, whatever that mess may be. That's my hope, anyway. Oh, boys.

ETA: That would be a reeeallly long episode, wouldn't it. Damn! Let me eat pie!

[ficwriter1966.livejournal.com]

Did you read CaffieneKitty's postulations? She's got some very interesting thinky-thoughts.

Poor Felicia, we totally hijacked her thread. But we can buy her pie in DC too - she thinks she can come. WOOT!

[kimmer1227.livejournal.com]

Felicia's coming too!!! Woot! I'm getting all tingly about seeing you gurlz. We'll have to buy the whole pie!

[feliciakw.livejournal.com]

I am totally prepared (famous last words) for the boys to be facing off on opposite sides of the war, amassing their forces, and getting ready for the ultimate showdown when the end credits roll next week.

After which I shall be taking a nice riverside vacation in Egypt.

Once I recover from my catatonia.

[leelust.livejournal.com]

Oy, why do you think Dean has to kill Sam?

[feliciakw.livejournal.com]

Dean promised Sam that he would kill Sam before letting him become "something he's not," i.e., a monster. Problem there is, according to Sam's hallucinations, Sam thinks he's already a monster.

Dean has said that he'd rather Sam die human than live as a monster.

It's probably the worst scenario I can come up with. Prepare for the worst, as the saying goes.

:-(

[leelust.livejournal.com]

Sorry, i'm late but now we know that you weren't right :) Feels good, right?

[kalquessa.livejournal.com]

7. OMG MAN, you've figured it out!! *cackles*