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So, last night, having seen a commercial for the ep earlier in the week, Geo and I sat down to watch CSI. It's the first time we've watched the show (once a MUSTSEEDONOTTALKTOMEDONOTCALLMEIAMUNAVAILABLE) in over a year. I haven't watched it "live" since we started watching SPN, and when we got rid of satellite, we also got rid of the Tivo. So basically, if we don't watch it live, we don't watch it. (Unless we want to download it from iTunes or something.)

Anyway, so last night we made a point of sitting down and watching CSI.


I was surprised that Catherine is hot and heavy with one of the detectives.

I still love Nicky.

Dr. Langston is awesome.

They referenced a S1 ep, and I remembered the one they were talking about. "First season!" I cried. "I have that one on DVD!" Geo chuckled.

Grissom got a shout-out!

The case, however, was gruesome and cruel, not quite as bad as the eps that got me watching the show to begin with, but very horrific. And I couldn't help but sort of role my eyes at the set-up, which was so very Twilight. And knowing that CSI often creates its case stories from actual news stories (they still do that, right?), I couldn't help but think something similar to this has indeed happened in real life. *shudder*

Though, seriously, where in the actual lore of vampires and werewolves does it say that they are mortal enemies? Because I'm not an expert on such things, but I've never even heard of werewolves and vampires ending up in the same lore, except in movies (Wolfman Meets Dracula, or whatever). [livejournal.com profile] girlyghoul70? You're my resident lycanthrope expert. What say you?

The case also struck a nerve with me as to how consumed people can become in their fandoms and hobbies. Because that's exactly what happened here. The murderers became so consumed with their make-believe lives they disregarded the fact that they were killing an actual person. So consumed that they thought the victim, being a human being, was somehow different from them. Just . . . guh! I wanted to smack the chick upside the head, then throw the book at them. Honestly? I would have liked to have seen a continuation of the case and followed it through the court and seen the verdicts rendered.

Geo really likes Dr. Langston, and even said last night that we should catch up on last season's epis. And now that it's no longer running opposite SPN, maybe we'll put it back into regular rotation.

Date: 2010-10-08 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] just-ruth.livejournal.com
There used to be a gaming company - probably still around, but I don't run in those circles anymore- called White Wolf. They created the "theater of the Mind" games Vampire: the Masquerade and Werewolf: the Apocalypse.

Frankly, I only encountered "the Masquerade" in my final year of college (1982) and it scared me. I've role-played but all my characters go back into the box at the end of the game, thank you.

With the two games the designers threw in the ideas of overlap called "the World of Darkness" - that's where I think the idea of werewolves/vampires being enemies came about. Werewolves protected "the flock" (humans) and Vampires fed on "the prey."

Freaky as all get out, let me tell you.

Date: 2010-10-10 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feliciakw.livejournal.com
You realize you did send me off to Wikipedia to look up those games, yeah? :-) Thanks for the info. I'm glad to know I'm not completely nuts and that this particular "gang" mentality (Sharks vs. Jets; Vamps vs. Wolves) is something relatively knew. Good to know.

Date: 2010-10-09 05:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] girlyghoul70.livejournal.com
Like [Bad username or site: just ruth @ livejournal.com] said, it probably started with the White Wolf RP games. But there's also The Underworld movies that have vamps and werewolves as enemies (though within that there's still Romeo & Juliet scenarios between the two camps and werewolf/vampire hybrids, yadda yadda) As far as I know, the earliest Vampire Werewolf mash-up if you will was the Bram Stoker story "Dracula's Guest" which was really a chapter of Dracula that was cut for length but later republished as a separate tale by his widow. It's been so long since I read that - but I didn't think the werewolf and Dracula were enemies. It just seemed they both posed a threat to Jonathan Harker. At odds over who'd get to Harker first maybe, but mortal enemies- not so much. In fact, I think it could have been read that Dracula actually was the wolf who came by Harker. (It's really been so long since I read it, I'm not sure)

So I guess what I'm rambling about is sometimes vamps and wolfs are enemies but it's nothing set in stone... in fact....

OHHHHHH, The Vampire and the Wolf Man should be friends!
The Vampire and the Wolf Man Should be friiiieeeends!
The Vampire likes to nibble napes
The Wolf Man likes to change his shape
But that's no reason why they can't be friiiiieeennnds!

And... I should really be getting to bed...

Date: 2010-10-10 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feliciakw.livejournal.com
Ah! More pop cult influence. Thank'ee. I'm delighted to know I'm not totally hallucinating or that I missed a key component of the lore. Whew!

Also, you filk, and yet you know not that you filk. Because bwah!

:-)

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