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1. This is a very uncomfortable ep.
2. It hurts.
3. My brain hurts.
4. I don't know what to do with this information.
5. Fix story, plz?

I . . . there's stuff in this ep that I just don't know what to do with. It hurts. Obviously, I'm not down with Dean trying to corrupt Castiel. Aside from the obvious personal reasons, it feels like fic. In the same way that fic that retreads where Show has gone kind of annoys me, I find that Show retreading where fic has gone kind of annoys me, too. Which is silly, because Show has priority over fic, but, yeah. Not so much in the like department. Particularly with this particular little plot device.

And I'm sad to say that this ep has me re-evaluating my feelings about Dean. I'll have to re-watch the ep because I missed some of his lines, but . . . his attitude and behavior kind of unsettled me.

And Dean says he's fine alone? Yeah, Dean, like I really believe you on that one. Okay without Sam? Meh, yeah, whatever. But okay alone? I'm not convinced.

I just . . . I don't know what to do with this information.

And "Hector Williams" as Raphael. First, wow. So not the Hector I knew and loved. Also Raphael being so . . . disbelieving. And kinda mean-spirited. Ouch.

Lucifer and Sam . . . Someone fix the story, plz? I . . . Show is making me very nervous, and I don't like having to wait a week between eps. Neither am I particularly fond of the direction the story is going.

It all makes me very uncomfortable and makes me want to pull away from show.

It will get better, right? Right?

(As a completely speculative aside, I think I now understand why Jensen was quick to point out at VanCon that they will be doing some old school stand-alones. The mytharc has taken some very dark and uncomfortable and awkward turns, and I just kind of wonder how the actors feel about it. I could be entirely reading my own interpretation into this, but I get the distinct impression that Jensen misses and/or prefers the old school storylines with Dean and Sam working together. Or maybe that's just me.)

Date: 2009-09-25 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andromakhe001.livejournal.com
"And Dean says he's fine alone? Yeah, Dean, like I really believe you on that one. Okay without Sam? Meh, yeah, whatever. But okay alone? I'm not convinced."

Why would that be a bad thing? Dean should be able to be OK on his own. To be able to see he can live and not feel crushed and invisible and like he doesn't exist. Because that is what it was like for Dean. It's a horrible thing to feel like you'll essentially cease to exist or have meaning if a couple of other specific people(who have a tendency to take off and leave you) aren't around.

Given Dean probably has father issues as bad as most of the girls I wouldn't read much into it. I think it was more advice for Castiel on how NOT to have girls screaming at him and freaked out - they all have issues, you kind of can't bring it up - than lack of sympathy for the girls issues.

Date: 2009-09-25 11:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feliciakw.livejournal.com
The way I see things, there's a difference between being okay alone and being Okay alone. Yes, I think Dean can take care of himself. For the most part, I think he always has been able to take care of himself. Can he hunt alone? Sure. That was kind of established in the pilot episode when Sam pointed out that Dean could do the job alone, and Dean said, "Yeah, but I don't want to."

That's what I think the issue is. Dean is a social person. He wants to work with a partner. He wants to have someone to watch his back and bounce cases off of and fill in blanks with. There's nothing wrong with that. He does need to learn that he has worth apart from his responsibility to and for Sam--the stuff you mention--but to prefer companionship over lone-ness (or loneliness--as opposed to aloneness) is not a character flaw. That's what I mean by I don't think he'll be okay alone. For him, too much aloneness leads to loneliness. He's the type of person who needs companionship--the companionship of someone who knows how to show Dean he/she values him in such a way that he'll understand and believe.

I hope that made sense.

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