SPN - 5.03 - initial impressions

[feliciakw]

1. This is a very uncomfortable ep.
2. It hurts.
3. My brain hurts.
4. I don't know what to do with this information.
5. Fix story, plz?

I . . . there's stuff in this ep that I just don't know what to do with. It hurts. Obviously, I'm not down with Dean trying to corrupt Castiel. Aside from the obvious personal reasons, it feels like fic. In the same way that fic that retreads where Show has gone kind of annoys me, I find that Show retreading where fic has gone kind of annoys me, too. Which is silly, because Show has priority over fic, but, yeah. Not so much in the like department. Particularly with this particular little plot device.

And I'm sad to say that this ep has me re-evaluating my feelings about Dean. I'll have to re-watch the ep because I missed some of his lines, but . . . his attitude and behavior kind of unsettled me.

And Dean says he's fine alone? Yeah, Dean, like I really believe you on that one. Okay without Sam? Meh, yeah, whatever. But okay alone? I'm not convinced.

I just . . . I don't know what to do with this information.

And "Hector Williams" as Raphael. First, wow. So not the Hector I knew and loved. Also Raphael being so . . . disbelieving. And kinda mean-spirited. Ouch.

Lucifer and Sam . . . Someone fix the story, plz? I . . . Show is making me very nervous, and I don't like having to wait a week between eps. Neither am I particularly fond of the direction the story is going.

It all makes me very uncomfortable and makes me want to pull away from show.

It will get better, right? Right?

(As a completely speculative aside, I think I now understand why Jensen was quick to point out at VanCon that they will be doing some old school stand-alones. The mytharc has taken some very dark and uncomfortable and awkward turns, and I just kind of wonder how the actors feel about it. I could be entirely reading my own interpretation into this, but I get the distinct impression that Jensen misses and/or prefers the old school storylines with Dean and Sam working together. Or maybe that's just me.)

Comments

[leelust.livejournal.com]

I for sure don't miss them working together :)
Anyway, i didn't see Raph as mean-spirited. More like tragic. He's lost. He's angry that he's lost. I likes his arc very much.
Not sure what unsettled you about Dean though. His attitude and his words about missing fathers gave Cas sp needed hope. And he clearly wasn't happy to be alone - watch the scene again. He can be partly right about not having sam around because sam (esp right now) is dead weight that drowning Dean but be alone? It's Dean's mask again. Bravado. Nothing else.

[kimmer1227.livejournal.com]

I'm in the need to rewatch category. I'm so damn tired, my eyes are crossing.

I'm mostly okay with Dean's attitude. I do agree he was lying out his butt, but do think he's feeling lighter having some of the family weight off his shoulders for once. How long has he felt that responsibility towards his family? Always. It's all he knows. It's how he identifies himself. If by lying to himself, he'll find a way to love Sam for Sam, and not out of some overwhelming sense of duty and responsibility, I'm happy. He'll figure it out.

[izhilzha.livejournal.com]

I agree that there is some discomfiting stuff going on (for one, hasn't Dean in the past bragged about not needing to pay for female companionship?); but I LOVED Castiel's actual response to the hooker: to tell her it wasn't her fault her father left. <3<3<3 CAS.

And Dean says he's fine alone?

I believe him partway. I believe that he's somehow managed to let go, partially, of being wholly responsible for Sam and Sam's wellbeing, and it's actually really good for him. (His part of the ep with Cas was, like, the beneficial version of "Sex and Violence.")

But did you see the look on his face when Cas left? Yeah, not so much fine being completely alone. Never that. {{{{{Dean}}}}}

HAHA I TOTALLY CALLED SAM BEING LUCIFER'S POTENTIAL/FUTURE VESSEL! I actually think this part of the arc has serious potential.

Not at all sure what to make of Raphael.

But sort of loved Dean relating Castiel's search for God to his own search for John.

We'll see if next week is utter crack or something better.

[kalquessa.livejournal.com]

I...kind of loved a lot about this ep. *hides* The mytharc hasn't gone anywhere irretrievably annoying, yet, and while I totally understand everybody's objections to the Dean-tries-to-get-Cas-laid thing, it didn't really bother me more than a little. Obviously I don't approve of anyone, angelic or otherwise, patronizing a brothel and it does sort of strike me as odd that Dean is portrayed as being fairly familiar with the scene since he doesn't seem to have much difficulty getting sex for free...but buying his angel a hooker just sounds like something Dean would do, to me. *shrug*

And that was really the only thing in the ep that really bothered me at all, that I can remember. I mean, other than Dean saying he's fine alone, without Sam, but that didn't bother me really because I know that it's ALL LIES!! *sticks fingers in ears*

The Sam-as-Lucifer's-vessel thing is something that's been kicked around before (I know Izh called this, and it seems like I've seen other folks call it, too) and I'm fine with it as it stands. It could certainly go places that I would find very...distressing. But it hasn't done so, yet, so I'm not worrying about it at the moment. Instead I am smiling serenely in the wake of all the shirtless Sam on offer in the teaser. Nothing makes things better like some shirtless Sam!