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Just got done rewatching "Heaven and Hell." And something jumped out at me that I'd completely forgotten. Each time Dean has confronted Uriel, and Uriel has threatened him with death and/or damnation, Dean has tossed back that God had him pulled out of the Pit for a reason. In this episode, Dean calls Uriel's bluff, and Uriel says, "This is bigger than you. You can be replaced."

Dun-dun-DUUUUUUUUUNNNNN.

Makes me think it was never their intention to have Dean act as Michael's vessel at all. (I still would pay money to see Jensen play Michael, though.)

These developments in the mytharc, though, make me wonder who knew what when. I also think the majority of the angels, the ground forces, if you will, were more along the lines of Castiel in their goal: save the Earth, save the human race. I just wish, you know, we'd met a couple more of them and that they were further up the command ladder, to counterbalance the unpleasant ones we got.

Of course, in the end, it was only Dean who could pull Sam out from under Lucifer's influence long enough to leap into the abyss. And it took a lifetime to get there.

Dean Winchester: hanging out, being awesome, saving the world.

ETA to your ETA ... LOL!

Date: 2010-07-29 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ann-tara.livejournal.com
Okay, in response to your ETA to my ETA, yeah, I admit if the series had ended as it was supposed to with both boys in the pit, it would have been bleak, for sure. But they would have been together, I guess.

Then again, the very last scene could have been both of them suddenly resurrected topside, just as Sam was at the end of S5. Remember, no one is ever really dead in the SPN universe. ;)

Re: ETA to your ETA ... LOL!

Date: 2010-07-29 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feliciakw.livejournal.com
Then again, the very last scene could have been both of them suddenly resurrected topside, just as Sam was at the end of S5. Remember, no one is ever really dead in the SPN universe.

Oh, I doubt Kripke would give us something that hopeful. Sera might, though.

And I'll answer your other reply here. :-)

As far as Kripke goes, I've only watched the panel, and half of a press interview. It was in the press interview, when the reporter asked what his original five-year plan was, that he said Dean's roll ended up being just as he originally envisioned it to be. He didn't seem defensive, and he was fairly detailed in describing how things came to be. Oh! I remember now. The reporter asked how he would have completed his plan if he hadn't included angels, because he originally said he wasn't going to include them. He said he didn't know, that a lot of the series happened by luck and seeing opportunities and using them. Then he went on to describe how the demon storyline originally developed, and how Dean's role didn't change. As I understood his answer, he was saying that the basic outline of Sam being evil and Dean saving him played out as he intended. He actually seemed to be saying something along the lines of what I wrote to leelust up-thread. (I flesh it out much better than he does, though. Lol!) I only listened to about half the interview, because I actually like to make my own decisions about the show rather than depend on the writers' in-put. So I don't usually read or listen to interviews with the writers.

If I stumble across the interview again, I'll give you the link, if you're interested.

Re: The Ackles. If you've been reading my journal, I don't need to detail my feelings about the man. :-) I will give him full credit for keeping me watching the show, particularly mid-S4 (when I was very tempted to quit watching), and through the convoluted and personally annoying--even insulting--developments that occurred this season.

For Jensen, I'll watch just about anything. *iz hopeless*

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