This is why I don't do spoilers . . .

[feliciakw]

Yes, my laptop is turned off and getting ready to be put away. I'm at the big computer. :-)

I started to read a TV Guide article that my mom sent, and I couldn't finish it. I am really disappointed--like, phenomenally disappointed--with the direction said article indicates SPN is going to take things this season.



Per the article, Lucifer is going to be the most sympathetic character this season. He's all misunderstood by everyone. I . . . cannot get behind that. At all. Humans are the virtuous ones? If that's the case--and I understand this at the beginning of the series, where humans, with all their faults and flaws, are nonetheless championing the side of Good. But I always wanted them to have something bigger than themselves to help them fight an evil bigger than themselves--but if humans are the ultimately virtuous ones, I rather wish they'd never touched on angels at all. Because if angels and demons are equally detestable, what's the point? It makes the distinction between Good and Evil irrelevant. It means Dean is right--go down swingin', end bloody, that's it. End of story. And there's nothing hopeful or redeeming about that. What does it matter if Good triumphs over Evil, if Good essentially means nothing in the grand cosmic scheme of things? Which is exactly what this article is telling me.

"Get off our planet" works in Stargate SG-1. It does not work with SPN.

I just . . . am really, really disappointed. I don't find this exciting at all; I find this to be a cop-out. It is not original, it is not thought provoking, it is not fun. Lucifer is the genesis and instigator of all Evil. He plays sympathetic with the best of 'em. To the detriment of those who buy into the act. And if I thought Kripke & Co. were capable of playing that through, I might not be as bothered as I am. I might even be looking forward to watching it play out. But considering how wishy-washy they made Ruby, I'm not convinced. I'll hold onto the hope that he will do the storyline justice, but considering how he weakened Castiel during the course of S4, I'm not holding my breath.

Kripke has killed my squee.

*mutters mantra "Kripke always lies. Kripke always lies . . . "*

It is Kripke's story, it's true. And I am free to turn it off if I want to. (But for Jensen, I'll probably continue to watch.) And I'll be glad if Kripke proves me wrong. But I don't trust him. He was skating on thin ice with me last season. This might be the final crack.

This also means that SPN holds to my Rule of Five. It's my experience--from shows that I've watched from the beginning in first run--that a TV show cannot sustain itself and its interest level for me beyond five seasons. Indeed, it's lucky if it makes it that far. I might continue to watch, but it's with less interest and enthusiasm than before.

Comments

[sarcasticval.livejournal.com]

Everyone's pretty much said everything much more eloquently than I could hope to with the sleep I haven't had. Sometimes it pays being late to the party ;)

I really enjoy the dichotomy of the heaven/hell relationship that Kripke's built. I think it's just plain neat that the angels (from what we've seen) kind of suck, because to me at least, it's a new and interesting angle. The sympathetic role-reversal villain may not be the freshest of concepts anymore, but I still find it far less formula than the mustache-twirling bwahaha option, and mtee makes some great points about the psychological structure of a fallen angel, which sums up part of my squee nicely. (I love quoting others instead of having to formulate my own thoughts!)

[feliciakw.livejournal.com]

I see where everyone is coming from, and it's keeping me away from the ledge for now. Really. :-)

I'm still peeved at the way Kripke is playing angels because for the longest time, I've wanted the Boys to have some sort of supernatural Good backing them up in their battle against supernatural Evil. That's why I was so excited when Castiel--this powerful and frightening force for Good--showed up. And then they spent the season not letting him live up to that.

I'll wait and see, but . . . I have reservations.

[sarcasticval.livejournal.com]

for the longest time, I've wanted the Boys to have some sort of supernatural Good backing them up in their battle against supernatural Evil

Yeah, that's exactly how I feel about witches.

Also, I do agree that Show, for all of its grand ideas, does have a propensity for dropping the ball when it comes to the overall execution of things. I love my Supernatural, but sometimes when it journeys out to the deep end of the pool it tends to doggy paddle instead of butterfly stroke.

[izhilzha.livejournal.com]

That's the thing, though--it's neither new nor (to me) particularly interesting. Babylon 5 did it (albeit with a scifi twist), Hellraiser (John Constantine) did it and other comics have at least touched on it, and Philip Pullman did...some truly original (in the sense of truly crap storytelling) stuff with a similar theme.

I dunno. I'm not against the sympathetic-Lucifer angle, because that could go in some very interesting ways. But making good as bad as bad pisses me off, especially on a horror show that usually knows better.

[sarcasticval.livejournal.com]

I'm confused as to what they should "know better" about? I mean, there are two story options, you either go one way or the other. For all the times good guys have been bad there are twice as many stories using the original formula. Also, it's not like every single angel out there is evil or that we know how far the conspiracy goes--but if Lucifer fell doesn't that open the door for the possibility of discontent among the ranks? I, of course, speak purely from the mythology the show has given us to play with, not a basis in actual Christianity.

I do agree with Fee's point, though. It would be nice to see some good supernatural forces at work once in a while.

P.S. Speaking of good versus evil, I'm beginning to suspect that the upstairs children are possessed.