Anna is wrong about angels

[feliciakw]

I make this post mostly for myself, to highlight details of Show that I have gut feelings about, but can't point immediately to why I have those gut feelings.



In "Heaven and Hell," Anna says that only four angels have ever seen God. This is one of the points that set my teeth on edge, but it was more of an instinct thing (throne room full of angels, how could only four have actually seen God?).

Well, today during my Bible study (which deals with something entirely different), I read a verse that made me say to myself, "Ha. Anna is wrong. Here's what Scripture actually says."

Matthew 18:10 . . . "See that you do not look down on one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven."

I'm not going to get into the idea of personal guardian angels, for which I don't think there's any actual Biblical support. But the above referenced verse indicates that angels do watch over children, and said angels do have constant access to God.

Now, I know Show is taking (huge) liberties with Scripture (like the Revelation(s) reference in last week's episode). But angels are a topic I apparently don't know enough about to be able to sort through the literary license on more than gut instinct. I'm trying to remedy that.

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Re: They should have a trivial pursuit on this

[feliciakw.livejournal.com]

Well, but the Apocrypha is included in the Catholic Bible. That's how I can tell if a Bible is Catholic or not. I had never even heard of the Apocrypha or learned what it was until I was a teenager. (Was never required to learn the Apostle's Creed or the Nicean Creed, either.) If it's not canon for Catholics, either, why include it? (Also, I was a little surprised when I discovered that the New International Version--which is what I use--does have an Apocryphal edition. I just never thought a Catholic congregation would use anything more recent than the KJV translation.)

If Martin Luther is the one who removed the Apocrypha, and it's not looked on by Catholics as canonical anyway, it makes sense that he would do that, since he was trying to get back to basics, so to speak. (My question would be how did it get into the Catholic Bible in the first place?) Though the explanation I've received of why we don't have the Apocrypha in our Bible didn't include mention of Luther.

(Btw, this is just me sort of musing aloud. Don't feel you need to provide answers if you're not so inclined. :-) )

I am a wee bit familiar with Maccabees, as that is where (it's my understanding) that the story of Hanukkah comes from.

The price of cons is extremely cost-prohibitive for me, and my most recent experience with cons (which was about five or six years ago) was . . . uncomfortable. I'd still like to see the Boys in person though. Alas.

Re: They should have a trivial pursuit on this

[yasminke.livejournal.com]

I was wondering if different "Catholic" used different Bibles, or if I was really old until I found this link: Books of the Bible. It's very helpful, 'cuz as any of my friends from BVS days will tell you, I'm Christianly challenged.

The Apocryhpa was (IIRC) put back by the Council of Trent: Reformation/Counter-reformation, and all that committee decision making.

Yes, Maccabees gives the world an excuse for Hanukkah: chocolate candy, filled doughnuts. All good. ;)

I've never been to a con (except a Pokemon one when my kids were wee little). Went to an academic conference in Melbourne that turned into a con, but that's it. I'd rather meet them (anyone) over coffee or Guinness. Smelly, screaming fans give me indigestion. ;)

Re: They should have a trivial pursuit on this

[feliciakw.livejournal.com]

I'd rather meet them (anyone) over coffee or Guinness.

Word. I'm am totally with you on that one.

Re: They should have a trivial pursuit on this

[yasminke.livejournal.com]

Love the icon!

And we totally should do that in a fan-neutral place. Which would be ... Shaker Heights? St. Clairesville -- great cafeteria there? Just not the northwest corner. I have nightmares about working national parks between Maumee and Defiance (even worse 'cuz there's a town with my family name nearby). OOOhh -- Sandusky...