Oh, thanx for the answer! Yahoo just shoed it to me *slaps yahoo* So sorry for late reply.
You know what? I agree with you - the facts you tell are well-known i just see them a little different if we talk about Kripke. I mean - i know what you mean spoken of Paley words and i see it this way - Kripke's just happy to do something big he maybe never thought of doing and he's like a child in candy store - he likes gore and blood and he can talk about it for hours but he knows it's only on surface. Like you said - even in the beginning )Paley) he knew how important Singer's role was and how important characters development is. Then lately he said more about characters and arc and less of FX. I see it as maturing too - he learn from people surrounding him. Plus and it's a big plus to me - Jensen always repeats that he calls Kripke with questioning about his character - so for him Kripke knows the character as well as actors who play them.
As to WIAWSNB i remember him saying that but it's hard for me to understand completely cos the meaning of 'loser' is different here. Maybe for you the way Dean is in jinn's reality is loser's way but for me it's not. So maybe for Kripke the way he wrote Dean was as loser but we see him as not loser at all. It's hard to explain with my knowledge of english though. I mean i don't see Dean as loser there but it's me - maybe on your taste he was a loser - i don't know... Again - the thing that Kripke can listen to others and let them convince himself is big plus to me too. (and of course i agree with you that it wasn't only Kripke's victory in that ep - it was mutual). As to Pilot (and i read that first draft but it was so long ago i barely remember) i think Kripke mentioned not once that he rewrote it so many times and changed the main story so many times that i don't even know what was his first shot there. i only remember that at first it was more like Kolchack not SN :)
as much as everyone thinks Kripke is a "magnificent bastard," I hesitate to dismiss the people around him I can't tell for others but for me when i say Kripke's eveil genius or magnificent bastard - i mean him and his team - always with team. Cos i can imagine how supportive they are and how much they love what they're doing. I never separate them from him. And yes, of course i agree with you again on another big plus - the ability ot surround himself with great people and listen to them. I think all of it are the factors of show's success. Of course the main part of it are our boys and Jensen esp but actors cannot do much w/o writers and other crew.
A little off but... For me, if the story and characters aren't engaging, the special FX mean nothing Totally agree! That's the reason i can't watch almost all summer blockbusters. All i see there are FXs and nothing more - it's depressing somehow...
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Date: 2008-09-06 10:00 am (UTC)You know what? I agree with you - the facts you tell are well-known i just see them a little different if we talk about Kripke.
I mean - i know what you mean spoken of Paley words and i see it this way - Kripke's just happy to do something big he maybe never thought of doing and he's like a child in candy store - he likes gore and blood and he can talk about it for hours but he knows it's only on surface.
Like you said - even in the beginning )Paley) he knew how important Singer's role was and how important characters development is.
Then lately he said more about characters and arc and less of FX. I see it as maturing too - he learn from people surrounding him. Plus and it's a big plus to me - Jensen always repeats that he calls Kripke with questioning about his character - so for him Kripke knows the character as well as actors who play them.
As to WIAWSNB i remember him saying that but it's hard for me to understand completely cos the meaning of 'loser' is different here. Maybe for you the way Dean is in jinn's reality is loser's way but for me it's not. So maybe for Kripke the way he wrote Dean was as loser but we see him as not loser at all. It's hard to explain with my knowledge of english though. I mean i don't see Dean as loser there but it's me - maybe on your taste he was a loser - i don't know...
Again - the thing that Kripke can listen to others and let them convince himself is big plus to me too. (and of course i agree with you that it wasn't only Kripke's victory in that ep - it was mutual).
As to Pilot (and i read that first draft but it was so long ago i barely remember) i think Kripke mentioned not once that he rewrote it so many times and changed the main story so many times that i don't even know what was his first shot there. i only remember that at first it was more like Kolchack not SN :)
as much as everyone thinks Kripke is a "magnificent bastard," I hesitate to dismiss the people around him
I can't tell for others but for me when i say Kripke's eveil genius or magnificent bastard - i mean him and his team - always with team. Cos i can imagine how supportive they are and how much they love what they're doing. I never separate them from him.
And yes, of course i agree with you again on another big plus - the ability ot surround himself with great people and listen to them. I think all of it are the factors of show's success. Of course the main part of it are our boys and Jensen esp but actors cannot do much w/o writers and other crew.
A little off but...
For me, if the story and characters aren't engaging, the special FX mean nothing
Totally agree! That's the reason i can't watch almost all summer blockbusters. All i see there are FXs and nothing more - it's depressing somehow...