I think we're mostly in agreement with how they'll (generally speaking) handle things, and I am with you 100% that Our Boys put so much into the characters that's not on the written page that it's a pleasure to watch.
About Kripke, though. Things might have changed in the past couple of years, but early on--S1, I think--when he and Robert Singer were part of the Paley Festival panel, he as much as said that he's all into the gore and horror of the show and Robert Singer is the producer who wants to focus on character development and story. Kripke even said it was a good match, considering that he, Kripke was all about the gore and Singer was all about the story (my words, paraphrasing). They balance each other. Things might have changed since then, because now I read that Kripke said that FX aren't as interesting as character development. That might be a maturing of sorts on his part, and it might also be his way of explaining how they'll work with the budgetary constraints I hear they're facing. They don't have the money for FX, so they're going to focus on dialogue and character development. He has also always said that at its core, the show is about two brothers. (For me, if the story and characters aren't engaging, the special FX mean nothing.)
Then on the commentary track of WIaWSNB, Kripke talks about his original idea for the story, which was to make Dean out to be a complete and total loser, a drifter, with nothing at all going for him. It was the writing team that told him that was taking things a little too far, and that Dean would not be a complete loser.
I don't know who he bounced ideas off of for the revisions to the pilot ep, but the original draft that Ficwriter posted a link to is very different from the "urban legend" idea that Kripke says he wanted to base the series on. Because the original draft is missing the urban legend element the pilot ep ends up using.
I'm only putting together pieces that I'm getting from here and there, but as much as everyone thinks Kripke is a "magnificent bastard," I hesitate to dismiss the people around him; he's not doing this by himself. But knowing enough to surround yourself with good people is a brilliance in itself.
So while I don't dispute Kripke's creativity in coming up with ideas and concepts, and I understand his passion for writing things the way he wants to write them, I'm also delighted that he's surrounded with people who will sort of give him the proverbial slap upside the head when he needs it. Kripke is at the helm, but he's not doing it alone. TV, by its very nature, is a team effort. As Ficwriter said, Kripke is driving the bus, but other people are holding the map.
I find the whole creative team dynamic fascinating.
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Date: 2008-08-08 08:25 pm (UTC)I think we're mostly in agreement with how they'll (generally speaking) handle things, and I am with you 100% that Our Boys put so much into the characters that's not on the written page that it's a pleasure to watch.
About Kripke, though. Things might have changed in the past couple of years, but early on--S1, I think--when he and Robert Singer were part of the Paley Festival panel, he as much as said that he's all into the gore and horror of the show and Robert Singer is the producer who wants to focus on character development and story. Kripke even said it was a good match, considering that he, Kripke was all about the gore and Singer was all about the story (my words, paraphrasing). They balance each other. Things might have changed since then, because now I read that Kripke said that FX aren't as interesting as character development. That might be a maturing of sorts on his part, and it might also be his way of explaining how they'll work with the budgetary constraints I hear they're facing. They don't have the money for FX, so they're going to focus on dialogue and character development. He has also always said that at its core, the show is about two brothers. (For me, if the story and characters aren't engaging, the special FX mean nothing.)
Then on the commentary track of WIaWSNB, Kripke talks about his original idea for the story, which was to make Dean out to be a complete and total loser, a drifter, with nothing at all going for him. It was the writing team that told him that was taking things a little too far, and that Dean would not be a complete loser.
I don't know who he bounced ideas off of for the revisions to the pilot ep, but the original draft that Ficwriter posted a link to is very different from the "urban legend" idea that Kripke says he wanted to base the series on. Because the original draft is missing the urban legend element the pilot ep ends up using.
I'm only putting together pieces that I'm getting from here and there, but as much as everyone thinks Kripke is a "magnificent bastard," I hesitate to dismiss the people around him; he's not doing this by himself. But knowing enough to surround yourself with good people is a brilliance in itself.
So while I don't dispute Kripke's creativity in coming up with ideas and concepts, and I understand his passion for writing things the way he wants to write them, I'm also delighted that he's surrounded with people who will sort of give him the proverbial slap upside the head when he needs it. Kripke is at the helm, but he's not doing it alone. TV, by its very nature, is a team effort. As Ficwriter said, Kripke is driving the bus, but other people are holding the map.
I find the whole creative team dynamic fascinating.
:-)