I sort of agree, and sort of don't regarding guest casting (and MotW). Because in a show like SPN, where it's supposed to be based a lot on suspense and reveals, it gets tricky. Most of the stuff (esp. S1) is simple synopsis information. "The Boys face Bloody Mary/The Hookman/a wendigo/a haunted house." Is the casting "spoiler" of Rufus coming back actually a spoiler? For me, no. Would knowing the trickster was in "Mystery Spot" be a spoiler? Oh, yeah, because he's one of the plot twists and reveals. He was also the MotW. Actually, "Mystery Spot" works really well as an example of spoilers vs. non-spoilers, and what works if you know it ahead of time and what loses its punch.
Re: Star Wars . . . ah, you must be a young'un. I was raised on SW . . . in fact, for me there is no such thing as "Ep IV: A New Hope." That installment? Is simply Star Wars. If you talk about "the first SW" or "the first SW movie," that's the one I think of first. There was no Ep IV title when I first saw it, and it's only just now starting to look even a little normal to see it at the beginning of the scroll. The first time I realized it was supposed to be "A New Hope" was when Empire Strikes Back came out, and still, no one I knew called it by that title. But I digress.
After the reveal in ESB, I spent the next three years coming up with reasons why Darth was lying. Because yeah, that was a BIG reveal. My first argument is the same one I use against believing demons in SPN: he/she/they are evil. NEVER take what evil tells you at face value. Ever. Because there's always a catch.
Digression: if SPN is supposed to be "SW in rural America," then Sam, as Luke Skywalker, is going to have to face his dark side in order to save Han from being frozen in the hell of carbonite. Or something. ;-) Actually, he'll have to face his dark side in order to save his family . . . but you get the picture. /digression
Also? Children will now never know the chill of dread that crept up the spine when Darth took his first assisted breath in the Revenge of the Sith. Because for me? When I was growing up, that heavy, foreboding respiration was the harbinger of evil. And to hear it for the "first time" . . . *shiver*. But alas, everyone now knows that Darth is Luke's father, and Luke saves him.
Sharing squee is fun, but I don't do it on-line like I used to. And since I'm usually the first of my buds to see something (me being in the Eastern time zone and them being in the Pacific), I'm usually waiting for them to catch up to me. And I'm quite willing to share retro-squee. I can totally understand what you're saying about wanting to share in it while it's going on, though. But I guess for me, that deflates the experience all the way around because I cannot contribute to the squee until I have seen the ep, and my squee is much more squee-like if I don't know the reveals.
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Date: 2008-07-29 11:06 am (UTC)Re: Star Wars . . . ah, you must be a young'un. I was raised on SW . . . in fact, for me there is no such thing as "Ep IV: A New Hope." That installment? Is simply Star Wars. If you talk about "the first SW" or "the first SW movie," that's the one I think of first. There was no Ep IV title when I first saw it, and it's only just now starting to look even a little normal to see it at the beginning of the scroll. The first time I realized it was supposed to be "A New Hope" was when Empire Strikes Back came out, and still, no one I knew called it by that title. But I digress.
After the reveal in ESB, I spent the next three years coming up with reasons why Darth was lying. Because yeah, that was a BIG reveal. My first argument is the same one I use against believing demons in SPN: he/she/they are evil. NEVER take what evil tells you at face value. Ever. Because there's always a catch.
Digression: if SPN is supposed to be "SW in rural America," then Sam, as Luke Skywalker, is going to have to face his dark side in order to save Han from being frozen in the hell of carbonite. Or something. ;-) Actually, he'll have to face his dark side in order to save his family . . . but you get the picture. /digression
Also? Children will now never know the chill of dread that crept up the spine when Darth took his first assisted breath in the Revenge of the Sith. Because for me? When I was growing up, that heavy, foreboding respiration was the harbinger of evil. And to hear it for the "first time" . . . *shiver*. But alas, everyone now knows that Darth is Luke's father, and Luke saves him.
Sharing squee is fun, but I don't do it on-line like I used to. And since I'm usually the first of my buds to see something (me being in the Eastern time zone and them being in the Pacific), I'm usually waiting for them to catch up to me. And I'm quite willing to share retro-squee. I can totally understand what you're saying about wanting to share in it while it's going on, though. But I guess for me, that deflates the experience all the way around because I cannot contribute to the squee until I have seen the ep, and my squee is much more squee-like if I don't know the reveals.
Thanks for joining in!