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Hey. Don't look at me funny like that. Thursday is usually the end of my work week. And considering that I worked both Friday and Saturday last week (and was dealing with a little bit of depression), I'm delighted that I'm almost outta here for the weekend!


I might post later about the "fannish state of me," but for now, I've only got one thing to comment on.

I've read here and there, and been told by others who read here and there, and there seems to be this misconception regarding Lisa as Dean's "one true love." Apparently, a lot of fans are gearing up to hate that idea, because Lisa has never been Dean's "one true love" before, and to make it so now would be wrong, wrong, wrong. Or something . . .

The thing is, not everyone falls in MADLY-PASSIONATE-OMG-YOU-COMPLETE-ME love. Some couples love each other in a much more . . . subtle . . . manner than that. Some couples start out as friends and decide to make it permanent (so to speak). Some people fall MADLY-PASSIONATELY-IN-LOVE, and the friendship comes later. True love is being there for each other, helping each other through the rough times, being there to share the good times. It's the little things.

Do I think Dean is "in love" with Lisa? No, not really. I think he's been "in love with" the idea Lisa represents. But do I think he genuinely cares about Lisa as a person? Yeah, I do. And I think he's cared about her like that ever since she became more to him than a weekend fling. Given the time and nurturing of each other, I think they could actually love each other.

And I personally would really dislike for Dean to become an established member of the household and then just up and ditch Lisa and Ben without so much as a backward glance or by your leave. That's not the Dean I know. The Dean I know, when he cares for someone, he genuinely cares for them. He is easily hurt by them and for them. And even if Dean and Lisa didn't fall head over heels in love for each other, I think they might wake up one day and realize, hey, I actually love this person. And they'd each be reluctant to verbalize it because, wow, when did that happen?

I have no idea what they're going to do with the Dean/Lisa situation in S6. I've mentioned that it could easily be Harvelle-esque, if that's the direction the writers decide to take it. But whatever they do, I hope they don't leave a sour taste in my mouth by reducing the relationship to nothing more than them having used each other. If they part (and I kind of expect them to), I want it to be on good and mutual terms.

Okay, I'm outta here.

Back later.

Maybe.

Date: 2010-05-20 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ficwriter1966.livejournal.com
Nicely said!!

Beyond that: need I tell you how infuriated I'll be part of what drives Dean back into hunting is the sudden, gory death of either Lisa or Ben (or both)?

I wish this was the end of my work week. Gotta work part of the weekend, too. *pouts*

Date: 2010-05-20 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feliciakw.livejournal.com
Aside from the fact that it's been done before (you hear that, Sera? It's been done. Find something new), I'd prefer that to Dean just walking out on them. The fact that he's described as reluctantly re-joining the hunt makes me feel better about it, but . . . well, I don't want to repeat myself.

Think I'm gonna go have a lie-down. My meds are making me loopy.

Date: 2010-05-20 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kimmer1227.livejournal.com
You know how things go in this fandom. Overreacting is kinda it's mantra.

I think it would be cool if Dean and Lisa kinda went there with The Sex, but decided to be just friends. Close friends. Who occasionally get nekkid. And sweaty. On screen. Just kidding.

Not really.

Date: 2010-05-20 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ficwriter1966.livejournal.com
What?

I'm sorry. I was distracted. Nekkid, did you say? With teh sweaty sexin'? I would watch THAT show.

Meanwhile, where is our daily pictures of Jensen and Danneel? I feel rather deprived.

Date: 2010-05-20 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kimmer1227.livejournal.com
Dirty, sweaty, sexin' Dean FTW!

There's just so much potential for Dean!growth. It's kinda making my toes curl. He could be relationship!Dean, or not. He could be legitimate job!Dean, or not. He could be semi-broken/not emotionally empty!Dean, or not. He could be drunken stupor/non AA attending!Dean, or not. So many possibilities. And Sam! Can't wait to see.

Maybe J/D finally took off for that honeymoon. I was just thinking about them while walking thru the airport the other day. There was a booth selling Rosetta Stones. Danneel said Jensen got her one on Italian for Christmas, but she couldn't go on the trip as planned due to work commitments. Maybe they went there.

Date: 2010-05-20 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ficwriter1966.livejournal.com
IKR??? The text of the press release offers sooooo many possibilities. A bleak, post-war landscape with people trying to recover. Angels and demons trying to...well, do what they do. Meg is still out there somewhere, I believe, and no doubt she is UPSET. Those of us who spin fic could take that release and make a metric ton of fic out of it. Which is a good thing!

I have mental pictures of J&D strolling hand in hand on a beach somewhere at sunset. But Italy, sitting on a terrace with a drink, watching the sun go down? That would work too.

Date: 2010-05-20 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kimmer1227.livejournal.com
Things have really been coming up roses for Mr & Mrs Ackles. Jensen gets a shiny new season with a shot at directing. Danneel's pilot is picked up. And they tied the knot in what looked like a gorgeous and happy ceremony in front of people they love. What more can one ask for.

*hugs those crazy kids*

Enough wasted rambling. Must hit the gym and possibly walk the pooches.

Date: 2010-05-20 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] just-ruth.livejournal.com
And if I understand Christian Kane's twitter - they got to go with the Leverage cast to NYC.

Now, that would have been a fun plane ride.

Date: 2010-05-20 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feliciakw.livejournal.com
I know I'm probably setting myself up for a fall, but I really like the Bill & Ellen Harvelle scenario. Wherein we follow Dean (Bill) on hunts rather than Lisa (Ellen) holding down the fort with Ben (Jo). We just . . . Dean needs a strong woman who knows the score. That's one of the reasons I think he and Jamie would have worked so well. (Why, yes. I still like the idea of Dean/Jamie. Why do you ask?)

The "friends with benefits" thing has never really sat well with me. I don't know if I can explain adequately why. It seems rife with landmines, and very problematic.

I would not at all be adverse to one of those scenes you're talking about, though. Because they're always shot so beautifully. The lighting and the way the scenes are choreographed and shot and all, and the soundtracks . . . yeah. That's it. Jensen taking off his shirt has nothing to do with it. Honest. >.>

Date: 2010-05-20 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kimmer1227.livejournal.com
I was mostly kidding about the FWB. It's just that fandom is freaking out about the twu luv thing. It would be funny if nothing happened, you know.

The sweaty/nekkid part? Well... It's Jensen! My brain goes on autopilot about some things. *clears throat*

Date: 2010-05-21 02:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feliciakw.livejournal.com
Hey, we're about due for another love scene, yeah? We've only had two in the five years we've had of show, and to be honest, I haven't been keen on either gal. I'd like to see him together with a woman I actually like. Ya know?

Date: 2010-05-20 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] just-ruth.livejournal.com
It took twenty-four years before I realized I had a true love - its in the little things of living, like making toast while I was taking my shower because I made the coffee while he was taking his that makes love work, not grand dramatic soap opera shite. . .

While I could see that happening with Dean and Lisa, I can also see that after a time - being reasonable adults (yes, such things exist) they could also see, as Cassie did that there's one thing they're good at (in this case caring about Ben - not necessarily sex) but the other stuff, not so much - and they part on amiable terms. This is not to say Dean vanishes from thier lives because you're right, that's not Dean, but things get put at arms length.

*sigh* I'm afraid that's probably the least likely scenario.

Date: 2010-05-21 11:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feliciakw.livejournal.com
I just don't want any sort of character assassination on either part. Considering that Lisa and Ben were Sera's creations, I think I'll be okay on that score. If it were Kripke, though? Wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.

I'm kind of tickled by the idea of role reversal, though, with Dean being the settled one and Sam becoming the "wild child."

As I've said before, this will be a new show that just happens to star the same actors. Right now, I'm feeling kind of optimistic.

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