I think regarding Dean being the better fleshed out character, it's a combination of both the acting and the writing. The acting sort of informed the writing. What I mean is, the writers write a script. Then the actor acts the script. And the actor might not present it the way the writer had in mind. But they need to work with what the actor has given them. So in that regard, the actors sort of direct not so much what is written, but how it's presented. Does that make sense?
And the guys have even mentioned that as they became more comfortable playing the characters and started owning the characters, the writers started writing more to their acting styles. So do I think Jensen's being a better actor led to the character being better fleshed out? Yeah, I do. I don't think anyone quite expected Jensen to be as charismatic and as good as he is, and that he'd give them so much to use and to play with with Dean.
I see what you're saying in regards to Sam. And I do agree that from a pure talent POV, Jensen is the better actor, and that a lot of Sam's inner workings were presented. But I don't think they were examined as deeply. I do think Jared has improved a lot over the course of the series (no doubt because he was acting opposite Jensen), so I really don't blame the acting quite as much as what the writers gave us (or didn't explore) in that regard.
Does that make sense?
And you know? I'm really not that worried about Sera being a Sam!girl writer. She's written some pretty awesome stuff. She wrote "The Kids Are Alright," for example, which was a very Dean-centric ep. According to the wiki, she wrote "Crossroad Blues" and DaLDoM (which had that awesome scene for Jensen) and "Jus in Bello."
So I know Sera can give Dean good, solid, juicy stuff. Sam might be "hers" (and Dean is Ben Edlund's), but I don't think she's purposely shortchanged Dean in her stories. (If anything, it drives me nuts when Ben dumbs Dean down for the purpose of exposition.)
But regardless, the 5-year mytharc has always been Sam's. (In fact, when they told us Dean would have to be the one to "finish it," I thought that was kind of weird and problematic, because it felt like it would take the resolution of the mytharc away from Sam. So I'm not really surprised that they backpedaled on that point. They've been writing themselves into corners for years.
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Date: 2010-05-20 01:43 am (UTC)And the guys have even mentioned that as they became more comfortable playing the characters and started owning the characters, the writers started writing more to their acting styles. So do I think Jensen's being a better actor led to the character being better fleshed out? Yeah, I do. I don't think anyone quite expected Jensen to be as charismatic and as good as he is, and that he'd give them so much to use and to play with with Dean.
I see what you're saying in regards to Sam. And I do agree that from a pure talent POV, Jensen is the better actor, and that a lot of Sam's inner workings were presented. But I don't think they were examined as deeply. I do think Jared has improved a lot over the course of the series (no doubt because he was acting opposite Jensen), so I really don't blame the acting quite as much as what the writers gave us (or didn't explore) in that regard.
Does that make sense?
And you know? I'm really not that worried about Sera being a Sam!girl writer. She's written some pretty awesome stuff. She wrote "The Kids Are Alright," for example, which was a very Dean-centric ep. According to the wiki, she wrote "Crossroad Blues" and DaLDoM (which had that awesome scene for Jensen) and "Jus in Bello."
So I know Sera can give Dean good, solid, juicy stuff. Sam might be "hers" (and Dean is Ben Edlund's), but I don't think she's purposely shortchanged Dean in her stories. (If anything, it drives me nuts when Ben dumbs Dean down for the purpose of exposition.)
But regardless, the 5-year mytharc has always been Sam's. (In fact, when they told us Dean would have to be the one to "finish it," I thought that was kind of weird and problematic, because it felt like it would take the resolution of the mytharc away from Sam. So I'm not really surprised that they backpedaled on that point. They've been writing themselves into corners for years.
I hope that made sense.
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