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feliciakw ([personal profile] feliciakw) wrote2013-02-05 11:18 am
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Random cursory thoughts on promo/spoiler

So I watched the 2 minute promotional clip from tomorrow's episode . . .



The promo clip is of the brothers discovering a secret lair, which I assume was located at the coordinates that Larry from last week's ep gave them.

Stream-of-conscious thoughts:

1. Ooh, cool. Followed closely by . . .
2. Mixed feelings about moving away from the blue collar, back roads, gritty feel of the show to highly organized and formalized, sleek and spiffy hidden lairs.
3. I want to tell these elitist* Men of Letters, "You think this is something special? There are repositories like this all over the country. Sure, they're crammed into storage lockers, or stacked up in basements and underground bunkers, but they're there. And they're being kept by guys who aren't afraid to get their hands dirty."
5. It looks like Lex Luthor's lair from Superman: The Movie. Or a war room, which is probably more their intent.
6. So . . . are we totally disconnecting from the first half of the season? Was that just marking time until we could get to the second half of the season? WT??? Are you trying to be like a cable series or and import series? Do we get no connection or resolution to everything you've put us through up to this point?
7. OH!!!!! Unless the mysterious shadowy figure watching Sam and Amelia's house was a Man of Letters (possibly an elder?), who tracked down the only remaining legacy known to be alive--Sam Winchester.
7.5. OH!!!!!! What if Frank--in all his conspiracy theorizing--ran across information regarding the MoL, and that shadowy figure was put onto Sam's trail by Frank Devereaux? (I know, now I'm just dreaming. But still . . . )
8. Wouldn't that Man of Letters be floored to know that Dean escaped Purgatory, so that there are now two legacies alive and kicking?
9. This mysterious, shadowy elder-ish person better not try to step in and start telling Dean and Sam what to do without earning their trust first. They've been through more than any hunter or elder could fathom, so just back off, dude, until you prove yourself.

10. Okay, now I'm just off on my own little tangent.

11. I'm going to miss the lived-in feel of Bobby's house and Rufus's cabin. But I'll try to assimilate this shift of events.

I get that they are now into their 2nd or 3rd, maybe even 4th, generation of writers, and that everyone who was there when it started is probably gone (with the exception of Edlund and the occasional one-off writers). So yeah, they're going to start re-shaping and re-defining the SPN universe to keep it fresh and going. I just hope they don't totally lose its signature feel and atmosphere. And that they don't start mitigating the importance of things like the Roadhouse, or Ellen, Jo, Bobby, Rufus, and the other stand-out characters we've met over the course of the past 8 years by supplanting them with this formal, elite organization. Remember where you came from, writers. Remember where you came from.

Also, really random. From the preview clip, it looks like the guy who's playing the golem (it's about time they had a story about a golem) was also Sam "The Mangler" Miller, whom Alec defeated in a cage match in Dark Angel, and also played the ghost (Freeman Dagget) in "Ghostfacers."

Looking forward to tomorrow night's ep.

*Yes, Henry's initial attitude toward hunters really grated on me. I'm sure some of his elders wouldn't hold such prejudicial views. Henry was, after all, an initiate, not even initiated, actually, so I can sort of understand his foolishly limited view in that regard. However, hunters are still people, and the guys and gals who are actually out there putting your knowledge to work on the front lines. Hm . . . perhaps it would be a good idea if part of your training was to shadow a hunter for a year, so that you can learn from experience rather than strictly theory. Like an apprenticeship. *nods* Or maybe that's required in order to become an elder. Hm . . .

[identity profile] gluisa88.livejournal.com 2013-02-05 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Though to be honest, I felt that the show lost its signature feel back in Season 7- maybe even Season 6...

[identity profile] feliciakw.livejournal.com 2013-02-05 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I suppose it depends on what aspect of the "signature feel" one refers to. I'm thinking along the lines of the road trip, back water, blue collar, underground aspect of it. It's certainly been lessened, possibly even ignored, but the guys hiding out from the leviathans in abandoned houses with no electricity, or in Rufus's cabin . . . that's in keeping with the old feel.

What's really been lost in the signature feel is the creepy. That I do miss quite a lot. (And that was lost long before the end of the original mytharc.)

[identity profile] gluisa88.livejournal.com 2013-02-05 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess I meant the gritty, creepy, raw feel of it. It's gotten too smoothed out and a little cheap feeling.

I mean, I adore the show and I always will- I just really miss the feeling of the first five seasons when it felt a little darker.

[identity profile] feliciakw.livejournal.com 2013-02-05 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I totally get where you're coming from on the gritty/creepy combo. I'd go even further back and say that I miss the feel of the first 2-3, maybe 3.5 (half-way through S4) feeling. S1 and S2 were gritty and creepy with an edge of hope. Problems seemed insurmountable, but they really weren't, or there was a glimmer of hope. Then we got to S3, and things turned very, very dark and hopeless. Honestly, that hiatus between S3 and S4, I was in such a state. Then Castiel made that awesome appearance \o/ and there was such promise! And it was at "Heaven and Hell" that I almost jumped ship. After that and on into S5, I started a lot of handwaving and shoulder shrugging and "whatever"-ing.

I'll be interested to see how Carver plans to re-energize things, since apparently the first half of the season was just marking time (I really hope I'm wrong about that), which is sort of disappointing.

But . . . whatever. ;) I still enjoy having Jensen and Jared on my TV screen each week, and last week's ep was pretty darn awesome. Tomorrow night is an Edlund ep, right?

[identity profile] gluisa88.livejournal.com 2013-02-05 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you're right. I really enjoyed Season 4 but I think more so now that I rewatch it. Seasons 4 and 5 were incredibly depressing- or maybe hopeless is the word I'm looking for- I honestly really loved Season 6 (at least the first half- of course I enjoyed the whole thing but the first half was my favorite) if for no other reason than that it was such a huge breath of fresh air.

It felt like this giant cloud had been lifted and not even soulless!Sam could bring me down :P

Season 5 was very iffy- the quality of the episodes was not always that great, tbh.

But I love watching Sam and Dean's story and I don't think there is anything that would make me quit the show/stop loving it... well, I could think of a few things but nothing that I believe the show would actually do :P

[identity profile] feliciakw.livejournal.com 2013-02-05 05:58 pm (UTC)(link)
That's one of the reasons I liked the beginning of S6 as well. I was so over and done with the whole angel/vessel arch, and I was so tickled that it was not connected.

My personal theory--upon which I have only my own speculation to base it--is that Show started getting dicey with the loss of Kim Manners, and the apparent loss of anyone who could or would put the reigns on Kripke. It seemed like there came a point when the self-nods and overtly blatant meta pointed to Kripke believing in his own cleverness, and no one telling him, "Hey, dude? That's not really quite as clever as you think it is." Or when they did (such as the phone call from Jensen, Jared, and Misha), Kripke overrode them, and we're given some uncomfortably embarrassing childish humor that doesn't fit the tone of the rest of what's going on.

But we're over and done with that stuff now, so I'm very willing to move forward with them.

[identity profile] just-ruth.livejournal.com 2013-02-05 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, from the short preview I saw at the end of the ep, I swore the golem had been made up to look like the late, great Ted Cassidy (you rang?)

[identity profile] feliciakw.livejournal.com 2013-02-06 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I can see that. *nods*