OMG! I adore this ep! One of the best of the best in history of tv i think. I know what you mean - the ep is all about perceptions (and i love it so much) and for me Kripke's initial intention to make Dean total loser means just that he wanted to make him completely different and since our Dean is no loser at all it's logical to assume that 'parallel universe' Dean must be a loser. I think it was his conception. And again i think his team was right to argue with him cos conception or not the world we see in this ep is the world based on Dean viewing of the world around himself and self-perception so i can't be totally different from what we know. I mean people can think of Dean less but Dean with his self-esteem issues still knows about himself that he's good hunter and not so bad brother so he can't change it inside his head. (if it has any sense). The description of this ep is very difficult cos there's a conflict between Dean's thoughts about self-perception and the way he see the world and jinn's reality based on Dean's thought that not completely right cos entering this reality Dean already knows he's not in the world he used to be. Plus there are Dean's issues with Dad and their family's destiny and issues of 'saving people, hunting things' and why we? Plus i think Dean's constant mention of drinking problem says that he think about too. Plus dead end of Sammy factor - he's good w/o Dean but he's not Sammy we know and love and he cares about his big brother not so much but he wants to be with him on the hunt (i mean there's like a click there - the moment Sam easily think of Dean as thief stealing mom's silver and the moment later he's in the car with him - i know it's cos he feels something not right but for me it's Deans issue with Sam - he wants him to leave w/o him cos Dean believes he's bad for his brother and in the same time he wants Sam to be with him cos he's family and he loves him). I know i digress from Kripke's theme but on Kripke's front we already agree in main question and this ep is just so perfect to talk about and so complex and full of many interesting questions that i can't hepl it and talk and talk, sorry :)
Yeah, less than 2 weeks left and conversations like this make this time bearable, thanx :)
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I know what you mean - the ep is all about perceptions (and i love it so much) and for me Kripke's initial intention to make Dean total loser means just that he wanted to make him completely different and since our Dean is no loser at all it's logical to assume that 'parallel universe' Dean must be a loser. I think it was his conception. And again i think his team was right to argue with him cos conception or not the world we see in this ep is the world based on Dean viewing of the world around himself and self-perception so i can't be totally different from what we know. I mean people can think of Dean less but Dean with his self-esteem issues still knows about himself that he's good hunter and not so bad brother so he can't change it inside his head. (if it has any sense).
The description of this ep is very difficult cos there's a conflict between Dean's thoughts about self-perception and the way he see the world and jinn's reality based on Dean's thought that not completely right cos entering this reality Dean already knows he's not in the world he used to be. Plus there are Dean's issues with Dad and their family's destiny and issues of 'saving people, hunting things' and why we? Plus i think Dean's constant mention of drinking problem says that he think about too. Plus dead end of Sammy factor - he's good w/o Dean but he's not Sammy we know and love and he cares about his big brother not so much but he wants to be with him on the hunt (i mean there's like a click there - the moment Sam easily think of Dean as thief stealing mom's silver and the moment later he's in the car with him - i know it's cos he feels something not right but for me it's Deans issue with Sam - he wants him to leave w/o him cos Dean believes he's bad for his brother and in the same time he wants Sam to be with him cos he's family and he loves him).
I know i digress from Kripke's theme but on Kripke's front we already agree in main question and this ep is just so perfect to talk about and so complex and full of many interesting questions that i can't hepl it and talk and talk, sorry :)
Yeah, less than 2 weeks left and conversations like this make this time bearable, thanx :)