Re: Jensen not being able to argue Dean with Kripke . . . while I completely see where Jensen is coming from (there's politics and diplomacy matters involved when you're discussing things with the folks employing you and writing your character), I would say that from a strictly artistic standpoint, Jensen has every right to argue how Dean would or would not react to a given situation. Jensen has been the embodiment of Dean Winchester for four years. He has brought depth and emotion to the character. He's brought more to the character than Kripke probably ever considered possible.
I say this based on the fact that, as I understand it, Sam was always intended to be the main character. Jared (the actor playing Sam) gets top billing. Sam was the role they cast first. Everything was intended to revolve around Sam. Then they cast Jensen as Dean. And what the actor brought to the character gave the character so much depth and nuance and layers upon layers of character, and the show evolved into being about Sam through Dean's eyes. Sam is still (theoretically) the central character, but we start getting Dean's development through Dean, and Sam's development through Dean. Does that make sense? So I completely understand why the Sam girls rejoice when we get Sam's development through Sam's eyes (ala his detox in "Levee").
And while, yes, it's Jensen's job to tell the story the writers want to tell, there's more to it than that. The writers' story is being filtered through Jensen as an actor, and while each of the writers work on specific scripts, Jensen has to act all of them out. So from a performance standpoint, I'd almost make the argument that Jensen actually knows Dean better than Kripke does at this point. But that might be overstepping bounds.
Of course I have no idea the nature of their discussion, and I've not seen any scenes from next week's ep (other than the promo trailer). So I really can't say who I think would know better. But just from an acting/performance/bring the character to life POV, I'm inclined to say that Jensen knows what he's talking about. Trust him.
As for Kripke needing a team to bring out the best . . . total word on that score. What I know of Kripke's first drafts and intentions, I'm . . . not as impressed as much of the fandom seems to be with him. That's not to say that he's a slouch, because choosing a good team takes a skill and intelligence of its own. But I'm not quite as enamored of him as much of the fandom is. He needs a team to rein him in and provide a reality check. FYI, Kripke? Your actors are part of that team.
That's part of the danger, I guess, of creating "living" characters. "Living" characters grow, and not always in the direction you intend. That's part of what makes it exciting, I think.
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I say this based on the fact that, as I understand it, Sam was always intended to be the main character. Jared (the actor playing Sam) gets top billing. Sam was the role they cast first. Everything was intended to revolve around Sam. Then they cast Jensen as Dean. And what the actor brought to the character gave the character so much depth and nuance and layers upon layers of character, and the show evolved into being about Sam through Dean's eyes. Sam is still (theoretically) the central character, but we start getting Dean's development through Dean, and Sam's development through Dean. Does that make sense? So I completely understand why the Sam girls rejoice when we get Sam's development through Sam's eyes (ala his detox in "Levee").
And while, yes, it's Jensen's job to tell the story the writers want to tell, there's more to it than that. The writers' story is being filtered through Jensen as an actor, and while each of the writers work on specific scripts, Jensen has to act all of them out. So from a performance standpoint, I'd almost make the argument that Jensen actually knows Dean better than Kripke does at this point. But that might be overstepping bounds.
Of course I have no idea the nature of their discussion, and I've not seen any scenes from next week's ep (other than the promo trailer). So I really can't say who I think would know better. But just from an acting/performance/bring the character to life POV, I'm inclined to say that Jensen knows what he's talking about. Trust him.
As for Kripke needing a team to bring out the best . . . total word on that score. What I know of Kripke's first drafts and intentions, I'm . . . not as impressed as much of the fandom seems to be with him. That's not to say that he's a slouch, because choosing a good team takes a skill and intelligence of its own. But I'm not quite as enamored of him as much of the fandom is. He needs a team to rein him in and provide a reality check. FYI, Kripke? Your actors are part of that team.
That's part of the danger, I guess, of creating "living" characters. "Living" characters grow, and not always in the direction you intend. That's part of what makes it exciting, I think.